Anything broken about the site, please post here.
Currently known problems thanks to the clumsy upgrade:
If you run across any other random problems, please post them here. However, try to keep unrelated stuff (such as "I don't like the futaba style", "my cat's breath smells like cat food") out of this thread so it doesn't devolve into utter incomprehensibility.
No bbcode ;___;
#1 is resolved, this was a really dumb error caused by sloppy importing of legacy code. Mostly it comes down to the old server config using a URL to point to a file, where it should have been using a path to the file on the disk. Before, it didn't matter because the old path joining code sucked.
#3 appears to have magically fixed itself, mostly. Capcodes and #fortune aren't working, but that's not much of a loss.
So that's two down, two to go, and all critical posting-related problems seem to be resolved. Woohoo!
>>3
BBCode is a mental disease, much like Pascal.
I was, however, thinking about some sort of lispish markup just for /code/:
(b (i (u (o hello))))So what are all the different formattings for text on our boards? I know there's italics and spoiler and code, are there any others?
It's a lot like Wakabamark, with a couple extras.
underline = __underline__strikethrough = --(strikethrough)--
italic = *italic*
bold = **bold**
bold italic = ***bold italic***
superscript = ^(superscript)
subscript = _(subscript)monospace = `monospace`
and
For the lists, prefix lines with asterisks or dashes or something, or number them.
There are a couple others but they're more or less "easter eggs".
In the footer of the textboards, 2ch links to Futaba, rather than 2ch.net
Tripcodes omitted on /f/?
>>10
Strange, the imageboard templates didn't print them anywhere.
Just a heads up; 2ch.us is dead. New link/working link is http://shii.org/2ch/.
/dis/ isn't on the navbar at the top.
On the textboards, you didn't properly close the <a> around dis. I'm an expert XHTML programmer, I've seen many of these in my time.
WTF..? Whay can´t I upload in:
http://sovietrussia.org/m/res/903.html
WAKE UP ADMIN...wer´e trying to do somethinghere...
>>17
You'll have to give more details than "can't upload". There's nothing obviously wrong with that thread as far as I can tell.
(By the way, that thread has been autosaged for months. What are you trying to do?)
>>>ID:JlihfVh7
What details ??? It´s an ordinary fucking mp3 file,
on 2.93Mb. Last time I tried, (5 of 5) and
waited for 10min = nothing happends !!!
Is that the "details" your talking about ???
>>>ID:Heaven
You'll have to give more details than "autosaged for months".
There's nothing obviously wrong with that music as far as I can
tell.
Have you tried uploading the file to another thread? Have you tried uploading a different file to the same thread? Does the server eventually give a response of some kind?
I posted a test file to that very thread with no problem, and nothing in the server log suggests that anything might be wrong. As far as I can tell with the vague information you've given me, you just have a slow connection.
Have you seen 7chan's /f/ board? They have it like a normal imageboard with .swf files in threads rather than the style we have here and 4chan and others. Would that be hard to implement here? I quite like it like that
Hmm... actually I really don't like that style, to be honest. A major side effect of being able to post swf's as replies is that the board essentially turns into an unbrowsable filedump, so the individual files are less "discoverable", and there's little to no quality control in what gets posted. Plus if people want to post tons of files, there's always rapidshare: case in point, the Touhou archive which was posted a while back.
Of course, the disadvantage of the current layout is it's a bit harder to follow threads, since there's no way to read the recent activity without opening each one individually (or by watching the rss feed).
>>>2008-11-24 05:11 ID:Heaven
Details...details...details...
Well...like this. Tried to load diffr. files,
diffr. size, diffr. types, ex. doc-txt-jpg-zip,
png-bmp-mp3-flac-ogg-mod-mid-wma-it-etc.etc.
But no response, at all. But...if I
load a very long txt.(only fonts) (no pic or other
file) in the ordinary txt.window, like here
right now, I´l get an "asci" replay.
Yes...tried to load in other threads, working OK.
Slow connection...well...right now on LAN server,
10Mb/s running, uppload 700kb/s, download 1200kb/s.
Yes...also know that some of the files I´ve tried to load,
isn´t compatible, but wanted to se the response.
OBS_NOTHING...happends...it dosen´t upload at all_OBS
Have scanned my PC for threats with 6 diffr.
spy-boot-cleaning-"what so ever find" programs,
If I mybe had any "mrfucking spamweasel"...nothing.
Have looked into ODBC(Open Database Connectivity)
"user-DSN/system-DSN/file-DSN", the -Logbok- for program/security/safty, the "Computermanagemant"
over warninglogs/tracelogs/countinglogs. Nothing.
Well...I could go on for a while but...
Crowbar mybe?
Having tried several tests, and even hand-stepping through the upload-handling code, at this point I'm frankly grasping for straws, because I am still seeing no problems on the server's end... what web browser and OS are you running, and with what language settings?
(I did, however, notice an odd file-clobbering problem which seems to have eaten >>>/m/1760 and >>>/m/1778. Bug fixed, but unfortunately those two files are lost.)
>>27
Do you think that would have anything to do with me accidentally trying to upload one of those again? It was a chiptune version of Chocolate Rain, I didn't realise I had already posted it.
>>24
Good points, I hadn't thought about it too deeply. It was just because I had some .swf files that were, like, alright, but I don't think they're worthy of a spot on the table if you know what I mean.
Actually yes, the bug was triggered by a person uploading a duplicate file under certain conditions.
Hang onto those swfs for whenever the bottom few are really crap. :)
>>>2008-11-26 22:59 ID:Heaven [Del]
Browser codec:
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<script>window.google={kEI:"gK4zSfTfNZWqxAG4idy4Ag",kEXPI:"17259",kHL:"sv"};
function sf(){document.f.q.focus();}
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x x x x x x x x x x x x x x
OS is XP Home Edition with all the latest udates,
as I did yesterday (just to be shore).
But it´s so funny that it is just that thread.
I could upload a small png pick, the last time
I tried, but no mu file, wich I tried right after.
Well...you have other threads to load in.
Thank´s anyway.
This is not an issue but i din't think it's worth a whole new thread. I'm just here to say that /z/ has become awesome again.
At first i had mixed feelings about the hentai flush but it looks like it was for the greater glory of DQN. That is all, arigatou gozaimasu for your time.
/z/ is amazing right now. All it needs is a wee bit more activity, right guise?
Due to image floating, textboards with images enabled look messed up while using the Amber style.
Someone uses that style?
'kay, for the last few hours I've been trying to get posting with unicode filenames to work right, and at this point I would very much enjoy beating Guido van Rossum with a sledgehammer for screwing up the str/unicode thing so badly to begin with.
The thing that makes it so hard to fix is Python on OS X (which the test system is running) has no problem whatsoever in dealing with unicode filenames, but on FreeBSD (this server), giving non-ASCII text to any of the os functions will instantly open a portal to the innermost depths of character-encoding hell.
I know it's really annoying, but it's really more of a pain in the ass to fix than it's worth.
>>41
Just reject any unicode filenames until a solution is met.
>>43
I just figured that the problem was recently encountered and that there was nothing preventing it.
I just posted Morrissey's new album in /m/ and all the filenames have ?s at the start, why's that?
>>45
That's a placeholder for the byte-order mark, which shows up because the id3 tag reader sucks. Probably because I wrote it myself without having a copy of the spec. (Not that very many players write conforming tags anyway.)
>>32
Now ur f...ing spamfilter is eating
my answer and xplniton of whats wrong...
Feed it and fuck it...
>>47
Then pastebin it somewhere.
Also, never, ever do what you did on /w/ again. If you're going to dump a ton of files, at least make sure they're relevant to the board.
"Pudding can't fill the emptiness inside me! ... but it'll help"
Is that a quote from a song or movie something, or just a quote from a user?
>>47
Please make a repost with proper spelling and grammar.
Thank you.
>>49
Google search suggests it's a sealab 2021 quote.
Will post management ever come back to /z/?
>>53
Done, and also added a "sticky" indicator for the textboard layout.
(oh god, that code is bad)
>>54
I have never been to a website/community that listened to its users opinions and responded so quickly. Stuff like getting /prog/ and /32/, as well as /z/ post management.
This place is wonderful.
Textboards look mangled in Google Chrome, the fonts seem too small and everything is aligned to the center.
OH GOD SOVIETRUSSIA.ORG SHOULD ALWAYS BE LIKE THIS
>>63
Firefox works great. Or since you're trying to be trendy, maybe Opera. Or Safari.
(How does 4-ch look?)
>>64
4-ch and other Kareha-based boards look fine, I looked through the source and css looking for what the problem here could be, but I can't find anything.
Not so much about the site, but 22 of the 50 threads on /f/ are dumb tinfoil-hat bullshit. Could we get some pruning? Maybe a few posts were okay but we don't need the german and japanese versions...
Thanks a lot :D
Copy/pasting from /a/:
> There's a quote bug in IE7. When viewing a thread, clicking on "1227" does not insert ">>1227" in the text field. It does work in IE when clicking on the post number on page 0-10.
>
> In Opera, the quote links work
The search feature doesn't work right. On /f/ if I search "frankie", which is obviously the top thread, it says no results found.
>>69
You needed to search for the top thread? :P
Google crawls and updates ... whenever. I don't know how often, but if you search for something like Touhou you'll get pages.
I suppose it works, if you consider the new stuff is visible on the front page and thus less likely to need searching.
When are you going to release the site code?
>>71
When it doesn't suck. :/
Well, that's not quite fair. It's not horrible code, it's just not very good. It started as a Python translation of Wakaba that used Trevorchan's database, and with no framework or really any structure. Over time bits and pieces have been replaced but it's still really quite haphazard, and I would really like to start fresh with a real framework (Pylons or TurboGears, probably) and get all the features which were at some point implemented functioning again (namely: fastcgi, lazy thread caching, some nonsensical charts and goodies in the admin panel, capcodes, ...)
Not to mention all the crap that spontaneously breaks whenever I try to fix something else, because the only installed copy in existence is on this server. (Yes, I keep backups, I'm not that much of a dunce :)
>>73
Eh. I don't want another Kusaba-incident wherein bad code perpetuates despite the author's intent to remove/replace it. Plus, I think I learned a few things from building matsuba, and hacking at a handful of other board scripts, and it'd probably just be better to apply that knowledge than to try to describe it.
Don't get me wrong, matsuba isn't nearly as bad as the average PHP script – it really is clean in a lot of places, but it has a lot of quirks. More of hard-to-maintain, and perhaps suffering from Second System Syndrome.
Example: the logic for how posts get deleted is split between the database and the filesystem, and neither of the two "talk" to each other. As it is, deleting a file causes a database request; that returns a list of referenced files and thread IDs that were affected by the request; the controller passes that information onto the filesystem handler, which actually does the deleting; then the controller gets back a list of files that were actually deleted, checks to see if one of those files was the same url where the request originated. (That's how you end up on the same page after deleting something – unless you deleted the thread from its own page.)
In a way, the current structure makes sense from a design perspective, but it makes things too complicated and doesn't provide much benefit. If I were redesigning things I'd just have one unified data store for everything; it'd simplify the code tremendously, which, of course, would make things more maintainable and better in the long run.
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