>>2459
See, if you were smart, you'd notice that your argument doesn't make any sense.
But alas, you didn't even notice what types of manga were on those lists. I'm pretty sure you assumed they were harem, shounen, and moe manga, when in reality they were mostly old school, horror, sci-fi and psychological manga. As far as I can read, there seems to be no "mary sues" and "lame storytelling techniques" in those.