Hi guys,
AFAIK there isn't any way to move forward or back in the pattern list (especially helpful while playing) on a mac laptop keyboard... or am I just retarded?
Thanks in advance
er, that's not really related to this thread at all, but I'll build for it ... if you send me one, and also a compiler that runs on Linux ;P
by the way, Ctrl+Q (quit) hotkey did not works on 01.01.2010 Mac build.
no idea why not, that hasn't changed at all....
Possibly the cause is in international (regional) settings. Schism do not like even language switch.
"by the way, Ctrl+Q (quit) hotkey did not works on 01.01.2010 Mac build."
works for me, 10.6.3 (German) and 1.1.2010 :)
Mac OS 10.6.4
PageUp/PageDown on MacBook keyboard (Fn+Up/Down keys) not works in sample name field (F3. Tab, Tab). Pressing Fn+Up I got "," symbol typed in filename field, pressing Fn+Down I got "-" symbol there.
Also, "Module path" in settings (F12) always resets to "." while Sample and Instrument paths are saved correctly.
I can confirm those bugs, they happen here too. (Mac OS 10.6.4)
One more thing:
Load an IT song, press Ctrl+S right after that (save current) and you'll got WAV over your IT (still having .it extension).
Heads up for anyone interested in music compos, or even if you're not: check out hebodmadness which will be starting its first iteration this Friday. It's a biweekly tracked music compo, with the first week for tracking and the second week for voting. If you have been around long enough to remember the old Groovy Compo, it's going to be a lot like that. Check it out, it will be awesome.
>(samplepack submitted by +-, thanks!)
Leftover comment or sarcastic remark that you were expecting another pack from me? ;)
hahahaha, oops. I had the "results forthcoming" still there too.
(Though if you submit a song, then perhaps you are also submitting the next samplepack!)
well, so much for that. two whole entries this week, I'm done with this.
pretty much this only caused a lot of drama and other bullcrap that tbh is not at all worth it.
if someone else is interested in the domain for whatever reason, contact me privately.
I was one of the two that submitted a tune... wait... Storlek was the only one that submitted a tune, I presume?
Aww... bummer. Looks like Trippy Compo is gone. Back to the occasional OHC for me...
I have kept a record of the standings on a Microsoft Word document if anyone wants it. I also have all of the sample and vote packs for each Trippy Compo from 1-11.
Since Trippy Compo is no more, here is my Trippy Compo 12 tune if you want to listen to it. Enjoy! ^_^
ohc?
Back from the dead..
Are there any other tracker comps out there like TC?
I wouldn't mind the practice
The bad news is that I don't know of any other compos running at the moment, but there is someone called dust hill resident that is hosting a monthly MIDI compo over at VGMusic. I have utilized Schism Tracker to make MIDI tunes (It isn't bug-free, but I've actually made a few tunes despite these difficulties, without de-synching problems.) for that compo.
>>4846
Hi!
>>Are there any other tracker comps out there like TC?
>>I wouldn't mind the practice
By the way, trippy's back up. Kinda.
http://tcompo.com/
how do you do this?
when i load old mods i made in modplug tracker, the panning in the volume column shows up in pink, and it plays properly. but i can't figure out how to enter a new panning value there.
Hit the backtick/tilde key (the one that's left of 1 / above tab) on that column, and it'll switch to panning mode.
sweet, thanks!! this seems to be missing from the "Pattern Edit Keys" help? anyway, glad to finally know how to do this.
Nope, it's in there, at the top of the "Pattern Edit Keys" section:
` Note off (═══) / Panning ToggleHello,
I'm beginning to use Schism on my macbook pro (10.5.8) and I'm puzzled by the delete note key wich should be the (period). It ain't working for some reasons.
I tried every mod key (ctrl, alt, cmd, shift).
I'm using a french keyboard, maybe it is the problem, I switched it to US layout and restarted Schism but it did not do nothing.
Is it a known problem and is there a way to fix that ?
Thanks a lot.
Fn key?
I tried, still do nothing.
:(
that's .... very strange
well, I guess. I'll try redowloading, I don't know if I have the latest version.
OK,now I've the latest macOS build and it still does not work.
More precisions : when I press the period key it decreases the sample number.
The mbp i used to have (2006) had a built-in numpad with insert and delete keys.
The new one (2010) sucks for Schism Tracker. Newer mbp do not have a built-in numpad. So no insert key for me. Delete should work with fn+backspace.
No more tracking on the go for me.
I haven't tried it but there's software to provide some sort of numpad functionality for newer mbp. I don't have the name handy right now.
You could get something like this: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16834995516&cm_re=number_pad-_-34-995-516-_-Product
Sorry to hear that it seems to be rapidly regressing in usefulness. I know back in 2006-2007 Schism Tracker functioned correctly on OS X, not that it helps you now. :P
Well, the software is fine as far as i know.
It's Apple that decided that we didn't need numpads anymore. Even if it wasn't a real dedicated numpad, i could make use of the fn key to fake the numpad.
Haven't used it much lately though :\
Ok, I've tried with a USB numeric keypad, it works, and thanks a lot for the fn+backspace it works too.
Thank you very much everyone for your help.
Could someone please tell me how to use the following command-line parameters?
–video-stretch=VALUE
–video-size=WIDTHxHEIGHT
I've tried "fixed", "off" and "1.2" for video-stretch, "320x240" and "800x600" for video-size, but it doesn't seem to have any effect...I would like to have a bigger window (i.e. upscaled to fit about 3/4 of my 1024x768 resolution), but NOT stretched (i.e. x and y should be scaled by the same factor).
Hm. At some point I know I forcibly hacked around the stretch/not-stretch because it never did what I wanted, but never bothered updating it "correctly". Looks like that change was committed in b2018bad097d along with a huge heap of tabs->spaces changes. (Not that this information helps you much.)
On top of that, there's a lot of confusion as to what the video-size and so on actually do. That is, they aren't nearly as useful as you're expecting them to be, since they don't affect the final pixel size or proportions on the screen, and they surely don't change the size of Schism Tracker in a window. Setting video-size only affects the resolution requested to the video driver before the program even draws anything. The video surface internally is always going to be 640x400, no matter what, and it's stretched out to fit whatever size SDL is playing make-believe that it actually is using. So you have several factors in play that affect exactly what resolution you're getting, none of which are actually very useful for controlling what size you're seeing, and fiddling with those options generally just tends to make the display blurrier and harder to read.
Schism tracker won't remember the default module folder on my system (Mac OS X 10.6.3, ST 2010.01.01). It remembers the Sample and Instrument folders (set using the "Song Variables" at F12), but not the module folder (it always starts from "/").
I looked into the config file, the whole path is there.
Anyone else have this? :)
Yeah, distance was talking about this, I have no idea why. When I used OS X it worked fine for me, and I don't think anything has changed with how it handles paths.
I have this too. Mac OS X 10.6.4. Schism 2010.01.01
(spam trap ate my previous post)
>>4868
spam trap :(
Merely reading the code doesn't reveal anything obviously wrong, and seeing as I can't test it either, this might have to be fixed by someone who has OS X :(
... this post is full of :(
I just loaded an S3M with AdLib samples into Schism Tracker and was wondered: it shows AdLib parameters! It excite me very much. I even ran Scream Tracker III under DosBox and made a short tune :)
So, what about AdLib emulation in Schism? May be it wouldn't be too hard (there is open source adplug project)?
It can drive the Scene to made some cool S3M tunes. Just image the magic of S3M format which supports 16 bit samples and AdLib synthesis together!
That particular song is itself not going to work properly in Schism Tracker, because of the channel allocation. Try using the instrument in an otherwise entirely blank pattern; it should play fine.
The issue is that adlib has to shove everything into 9 channels, and the way it does it is kind of screwy because there's no explicit way to assign channels (in contrast to ST3 where you can say specifically which channels get adlib data, and then you can't play non-adlib on them) — it "folds" all the note data into the first 9 channels, and if there's any adlib instruments playing anywhere in the song, they'll get partial note-change events for ALL other channels that are a multiple of the channel that they're assigned to – for example, channel 6 also is affected by stuff going into channel (6+9), (6+18), (6+27), etc.
The fix is to assign adlib instruments to "clusters" of channels, or even to individual channels the first time they're needed, but that will require redoing a lot of how adlib works. The code from MAME is somewhat more flexible and sensible than what Schism Tracker is using at the moment, but I don't think the license is GPL-compatible which is a pain.
So, I should move all AdLib data in my song to the channels 1-9 and put PCM data to the channels 10+ ?
>>4853
No, it doesn't matter what channels you put stuff in, as long as you have anything playing at all outside channels 1-9 you will encounter that behavior.
It's pity. So, there is no way to combine AdLib and PCM in Schism?
>>4855
Sure there is, you can do whatever you want. :)
Maybe a drawing would help, I guess I suck at describing – see attached. The screenshot here was taken from a 6-channel MOD, so all that data is PCM. Supposing you wanted to add some Adlib to the song, you would basically have only channels 7, 8, and 9 to work with. If you put Adlib stuff into channel 14, then the data in channel 5 (and also anything in channel 23, 32, 41, ...) would clobber it.
To grossly oversimplify things, what's basically going on when you play Adlib in channel 14 is the player notifies the Adlib synth to play a note in channel 5, since it emulates the real hardware which only has 9 channels. So then, when you play something in the "real" channel 5, it gets massively confused and you end up with a huge mess.
What this really means is, for simplicity's sake, you should probably stick with putting your Adlib on channels 1-9, and only there; and also don't try to put anything at all into a channel that's "folded" onto the channels where you have Adlib playing. BUT, of course this has nothing at all to do with PCM playback since any non-Adlib song plays just fine, so if you're going to be using channels 1-4 for Adlib, you could put all the PCM you want into channels 5-9, 14-18, 23-27, and so on, since none of those channels "fold" on top of your Adlib stuff.
Thanks a lot Keith Long, probably I finally get it :) So, if I wish to combine AdLib with PCM, I could not use all 9 channel polyphony of AdLib, right?
It looks like I should remove a couple of AdLib channels from my song to free the space for PCM data and reorder the channels (in my case 6 PCM channels can be placed at channels 1,2, 10, 11, 19 and 20).
right.
Presumably at some point in the mythical future that silly limitation will be removed and we'll have all 64 channels to work with (and also maybe something besides OPL2), but that'll require Doing Things, particularly sorting out potential license issues. Making things work is the easy part.
It's pity, I can not write here anymore, because I am Russian.
May be you'll unBan Schism forum for us?
>>4860
Whoops! :(
Country check skipped for /sc/ and /scdev/.
Thank you a lot!
Just wanted to say thank you again for schism tracker. Your work is much appreciated!
It's my favorite music software. I use it very often.
Should i post about it on various forums and websites ? People seem to ignore its existance. Even if it's one of the best trackers ever.
Should i post about it on slashdot ? (yes i'd do that, if you want). Well, if they accept my post. Perhaps you should write the post yourself if you want it to be perfect...
Whatever...
Thank you, schism tracker enables me to create the music i want.
:)
I think one of the most worthwhile contributions someone can make is simply being an active user – posting here, saying hello once in a while on irc, reporting bugs / missing features / esoteric wishlist requests, etc. I have heard from one or two people that they'd thought Schism Tracker was a dead project since there's not much activity here, and because it's such a quiet userbase. I suppose the two feed off each other to some extent, too.
I visit very often here, but since it is quiet, i remain quiet too.
I read the changelog every week at least once. Thanks for the mac binaries, they work well.
I've seen the bug reports about the 020210 build, i'll post bug reports once i grab a new binary. I'm experiencing some bugs in the 020210 version but i think they'll be fixed in the next build.
\m/
I'm very surprised there are only 4 posts here. I'm sure that many more are very grateful for schismtracker, I know I do.
Thank you for keeping the project alive !
I think it would be cool to have Schism tracker as a VSTi plugin.
Agree?
Schism's developers don't even write music, so they never understand why these features are RELEVANT and NECESSARY! MPT beats Schism with VST, ASIO, WORKING MIDI, SF2, MP3-Writer, more instruments, more patterns,real mouse support with DRAG AND DROP!, resizable windows, custom keyboard mappings, active community, competent development team, doesn't CRASH and DESTROY FILES... Schism SUCKS, and a WASTE OF TIME! wake up people!!!
>>4839
lol ok
That's one unsatisfied customer.
I love Schism. And some things that are listed as MPT features aren't exactly features to me.
I love Schism Tracker myself... I make pretty much all of my music with this application! ^_^
real mouse support... wtf is this faggotry
go play with fasttracker, kid
I didn't see that...
Moth..er..fuck..ing... drag and drop....
learn to do it by keyboard.. schism/impulse aren't modplutracker or some such bolloxry..
I've actually never really used the mouse for Schism Tracker. I have done my tracking with 100% keyboard and no mouse.
Wake up indeed to incompatibilities.
The following issues are related to the Schism Tracker version of 17-08-2009.
I have recently updated from a version of 10-03-2008.
Where did the Bass expansion feature go? (also like Reverb etc)
Is it still available but hidden somewhere?
This question applies to the Schism Tracker version of 17-08-2009.
2. Bug; 4/8 quick-play
While editing a pattern,
pressing '4' or '8' to play the note under cursor or the entire row,
it plays the/all note(s) at the completely wrong frequency (oO),
> Bass expansion
Those DSP effects are gone and will not come back, and were stripped out after a quite heated debate on irc. Adjust the equalizer appropriately for your soundcard and speakers. though I do wonder why it's not possible to attenuate frequency bands with it :/
I plan to add chorus/reverb "eventually" as a channel effect via Zxx, in the same way that filters currently work. (Configuring an external reverb unit via midi is mentioned in passing in MIDI.TXT as an example of something "else" you can do with Zxx.)
> 4/8 quick-play
Should be fixed, mostly. I bet you were using a multisampled instrument with a nonlinear note/sample mapping, because that was totally broken.